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  1. Nick el Ass
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    Gamaliel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 14:20:05
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream
    Originally posted by Nick el Ass
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream

    The only thing that I'm hoping for is that they don't pull a Treznor. I kind of have a feeling Roadrunner might pick Manson up, though. Best news in a long time? Please. I've been given better news than this, like "I'm not pregnant."

     

    Actually, thinking about it more, it might not be a positive thing. He was "dropped." Manson didn't tear away from his contract nor finished the contract then left on good terms. Interscope dropped his ass.

     

     

    Whether or not they dropped him or he left, this is still good news... In my humble opinion.

     

    It could go either way. One label might be cautious to pick Manson up due to the album sales yet see all the revenue brought in by concerts. Another label might want Manson to play what they used to but get something totoally different, in which I call the Neil Diamond Syndrome, or I believe it was Neil Diamond. Doing research as we speak.

     

    Oh yeah, Myspace whoring is for losers.

     

     

    Of course it is and that is why I do it...

  2. Tigger
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    Thagirion
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 14:30:03

    Assuming Manson signed 10 year contracts, wouldn't his contract be up around this time anyway? So more than likely Interscpope just opted not to renew and it has been pretty obvious Manson had no desire to stay with them anyway.

     

    =)

     

     

    "You can't change the world, you can only change yourself." - MM

  3. ataglance20079
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    Gamaliel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 14:34:12

    Oh, so excited to hear this new music!!:D

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    Nehemoth
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 14:34:52
    Originally posted by Celebrity Killing Spree

    I think you guys should be more paranoid about this. It's not like Interscope isn't going to try and profit from this, and we don't know what the conditions of the split were. How would you like to see the release of a batch of unapproved Manson compilations, or the rerelease of Antichrist Superstar with crappy packaging and new 'retrospective' liner notes etc? Perhaps Manson's foretelling "Guess I missed the sign that said it was a fire sale" just might come true.

     

    Or how about this fun situation? Another band that I love Opeth, split with thier longtime label a few years ago to join Roadrunner and when they did they found out that they couldn't use a vast number of thier songs released under the previous label on thier upcoming live DVD. If you think Interscope isn't going to try to exploit Manson's work for a profit now that they don't have to worry about appeasing him, you're kidding yourself. If anybody is going to be raped it's the body of work we've come to love and respect.

    It honestly makes me shudder. I really hope Manson has all of his rights in order.

     

    Subsequently though, this may prompt the release of countless materials that the label has been suppressing for years (such as the short film "Groupie"). But Then this also could be a coffin nail to other things like the DVD reissues of DttW and GiitTV, or any upcoming Rape of the World DVD. Or worse a RotW DVD without any of Manson's input or approval.

    I'm pretty sure Manson knows Interscope is going to continue to financially rape and steal from him and exploit his work from 1994-2009 for profit - because they've been doing it for the last 10 years or so.

     

    Though I have a hard time figuring out whether or not Interscope intentionally dropped the ball on promoting High End of Low so it would perform badly in sales and they could drop him from the label, or if Manson himself refused to promote the record so he could give them a reason to finally release him from his contract. It's no secret he's been fed up with the label for quite some time now. Ultimately, this is a good thing.

     

    What he's going to do next, however, remains to be seen. Should he go with a new label that'll pay him more and give him more artistic freedom (doubtful), or should he go the Trent Reznor route of independent releases and online/touring/merch sales only? We all know labels are going the way of the dinosaur. But, despite Trent's success in online releases, there's still no profitable business model for selling music right now.

     

    Above all else, Manson needs a management/promotional team that will promote the shit out of whatever he does to all forms of media. Because whatever Interscope had him set up with wasn't working.

  5. Mother Moth
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    Harab Serapel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:00:53

    This isn't because they 'dropped' him. The contract just ran out. We all know Manson has felt disdain for his record company for years. He's been waiting for this moment so he could leave. Now he's giving them the finger and walking away. 

    MOM
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    Thamiel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:30:22
    Originally posted by Rusted Knife

    This does sound like great news, I particuarly like the bit about releasing his next record sooner. I don't think labels are the way for any band to go these days they do restrict an artist in too many ways can't show your full creative potential when your being blocked at every turn so pretty optimistic about this.

    i agree w/ this, good post.

  7. Shattered Dream
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    Thamiel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:39:59

    The more than I think about it, the more that it's a horrible idea. Remember how all of you were requesting for a 2010 Tour? Well, it's not going to happen without a backing label nor will the promotion of a new album, which includes signings and guest appearances on talk shows.

     

    Most of you are acting like it's the second coming of Jesus. Manson is not a producer like Treznor. He even failed horribly to keep Posthuman Records afloat. The creativity is there, yes, since Capricorn's are the most creative people on Earth, but without actual backing, minor things like tours, videos, and even sound quality will fall flat.

     

    Here's to hoping that Manson finds a new label.

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    Samael
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:46:18
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream

    The more than I think about it, the more that it's a horrible idea. Remember how all of you were requesting for a 2010 Tour? Well, it's not going to happen without a backing label nor will the promotion of a new album, which includes signings and guest appearances on talk shows.

     

     

     

     This is exactly what I was thinking :/

    I'm really going to miss seeing him on talk shows.

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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:53:10

    Usually bands don't get their record label to fund thier tours anyway. So, I don't see how this means they won't tour anymore.

     

    o_O

     

    If anything, they will tour more.

     

    =)

     

     

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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:53:23
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream

    Manson is not a producer like Treznor. He even failed horribly to keep Posthuman Records afloat.

    Here's to hoping that Manson finds a new label.

     

    Well Vrenna has loads of experience as a producer and both Twiggy and Vrenna have experience with promoting smaller bands so between that and whatever weight Manson's names still holds in the goth scene the band wouldn't be totally lost on their own.

     

    Still though, they'll most likely end up signing a distribution deal with Roadrunner or some other somewhat major label. Manson is friendly with Slipknot and Rob Zombie who are also on Roadrunner so that'll probably make it seem like the more enticing choice.

     

    Originally posted by Tigger

    Usually bands don't get their record label to fund thier tours anyway. So, I don't see how this means they won't tour anymore.

     

    Yeah, isn't Hot Topic his main source of tour funding anyways?

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    Thamiel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 15:55:55
    Originally posted by lagozzino
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream

    Manson is not a producer like Treznor. He even failed horribly to keep Posthuman Records afloat.

    Here's to hoping that Manson finds a new label.

    Still though, they'll most likely end up signing a distribution deal with Roadrunner or some other somewhat major label. Manson is friendly with Slipknot and Rob Zombie who are also on Roadrunner so that'll probably make it seem like the more enticing choice.

     

    Roadrunner pretty much holds the benchmark for the most unfavourable contracts to artists. He's much better off on his own then with them.

  12. CNT666
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    Harab Serapel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 16:04:43

    oh I cant wait for the new album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. Cretin Dilettante
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 16:11:10
    Originally posted by Celebrity Killing Spree
    Originally posted by lagozzino
    Originally posted by Shattered Dream

    Manson is not a producer like Treznor. He even failed horribly to keep Posthuman Records afloat.

    Here's to hoping that Manson finds a new label.

    Still though, they'll most likely end up signing a distribution deal with Roadrunner or some other somewhat major label. Manson is friendly with Slipknot and Rob Zombie who are also on Roadrunner so that'll probably make it seem like the more enticing choice.

     

    Roadrunner pretty much holds the benchmark for the most unfavourable contracts to artists. He's much better off on his own then with them.

    Not to mention the majority of all bands signed to Road Runner are generic garbage.

    You must eat all of your greenbacks, it's only common currency.

  14. Shattered Dream
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 16:12:43

    ^I'm pretty sure Roadrunner doesn't give two craps about what you think about their bands.

  15. twigmansonfan
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    Harab Serapel
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    Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 - 16:14:58
    Awesome news.Can't wait for new album

     

     
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