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Manson splits with interscope records

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Gamaliel
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 15:36:43

Originally posted by LunaticNapolean

Originally posted by circles

Originally posted by LunaticNapolean

interscope doesn't control how often radio stations play a song/band. sorry, try again.

lol @ you thinking that major labels have no influence over radio play.

in other news, fuck off, you're boring and trite.

oh, yes. major labels call EVERY SINGLE radio station across the nation/world and says "YOU WILL PLAY THIS OK"

Originally posted by URIEL

looks like interscope found his replacement...

um, no. lady gaga is fucking fabulous. manson was only fabulous in 1998-1999. other than that, the two are nothing alike. oh, and the fact they both have pseudonyms

Radio stations are owned by larger companies. The record companies do contact those larger companies and give them money to play their songs. Every song you here on the radio, except for public radio, is only being played because the record company payed big bucks to have it played. It's not legal but they get around it.
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Chaigidel
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 16:03:30

Originally posted by Babel

Radio stations are owned by larger companies. The record companies do contact those larger companies and give them money to play their songs. Every song you here on the radio, except for public radio, is only being played because the record company payed big bucks to have it played. It's not legal but they get around it.

I'm curious as to where you're getting this information from. As far as I'm aware, radio stations have to pay money for the rights to play music, they don't get paid to play music. A record company paying a company that owns a radio station to play music would be like a record company paying youtube to have it's viewers upload videos with pirated music. It just wouldn't happen.
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Da'ath - Babe of the Abyss

¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 16:34:34

Originally posted by Babel

Originally posted by LunaticNapolean

Originally posted by circles

Originally posted by LunaticNapolean

interscope doesn't control how often radio stations play a song/band. sorry, try again.

lol @ you thinking that major labels have no influence over radio play.

in other news, fuck off, you're boring and trite.

oh, yes. major labels call EVERY SINGLE radio station across the nation/world and says "YOU WILL PLAY THIS OK"

Originally posted by URIEL

looks like interscope found his replacement...

um, no. lady gaga is fucking fabulous. manson was only fabulous in 1998-1999. other than that, the two are nothing alike. oh, and the fact they both have pseudonyms

Radio stations are owned by larger companies. The record companies do contact those larger companies and give them money to play their songs. Every song you here on the radio, except for public radio, is only being played because the record company payed big bucks to have it played. It's not legal but they get around it.

LOL RADIO STATIONS ARE OWNED BY LARGER COMPANIES? OK. wow. this is all too funny. because. record labels send out promotional cds to radio stations IF the radio station requests such. i'm not sure if there's any paying to be had there but i'm sure of it. but wow...record labels pay to have songs played...ok. i hope you aren't a dj or affiliated with record companies/radio stations at all
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Golachab
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 16:43:58

Originally posted by Galaxy Girl

I'm curious as to where you're getting this information from. As far as I'm aware, radio stations have to pay money for the rights to play music, they don't get paid to play music.

This.

I used to work for my college radio station and we had to log every single song we played on air so that we could then pay the royalties for playing them. The only time we didn't pay was when a record company would send us a free promo album/single that they were really hoping to get airplay for.

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Thagirion
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 16:56:01

Payola has always and will always exist. It's illegal, so they get around it by saying "we will give you all this free shit if you play this song X amount of times! But, if anyone asks we are giving you free shit just out of the goodness of our hearts! :P"

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Thagirion
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 17:43:55

INFINITY RADIO & CLEAR CHANNEL are the only radio station business that exist in America. If you live in America, and you listen to these stations........
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Samael
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 18:06:23

Originally posted by lagozzino

The only time we didn't pay was when a record company would send us a free promo album/single that they were really hoping to get airplay for.

Isn't this actually explaining it all? Plus the bonuses the radios get for playing certain songs. I am sick of the radios, they play the same shitty songs all over again. When there is a decent radio station, it gets soon bought by a bigger one and turns to shit too. My friends like completely different music than I do, but we usually hate the same songs - and those get the most airplay. Why, when most people are sick of them? Guess.... it's terrible, there is so much good music around and most of it never makes it to the radio. Fuck the radio.
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Nehemoth
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 19:05:09

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that COMMERCIAL SPONSORS are typical a radio station's (or broadcasting company's) largest revenue source. It is predominantly corporate strategy & contractual stipulations with commercial sponsors and affiliates that dictate all that may or may not receive airplay on a given outlet, or at least at a given rotation or time range. Clear Channel, Westwood One, & other broadcasting companies typically operate a Top 40, New/Alt Rock, Classic Rock, & New Wave/Lite station in every metro market they can capture, or are supported by the present time's direct marketing area/listening audience figures-like Nielsen Ratings. Artists/groups that are marketed EFFECTIVELY to their appropriate, correlative niche music outlets receive airplay in a hierarchical fashion based on recent artist/group, album, single sales and press/media coverage. The 2 factors that can inspire or direct the programming department or show producers to push or pull an artist/group on or off the air MOST are a HIGH, LEGITIMATE, DMA-BASED AIRPLAY REQUEST VOLUME & COMMERCIAL SPONSOR & AFFILIATE CONTRACTUAL STIPULATIONS.

Also, it should be noticed that MUSIC LICENSING CHARGES, FEES, & ROYALTIES ARE NEGOTIABLE & WAIVERABLE. Additionally, some group of post-human decay of the Earth known as the F.C.C. can certainly hamper a station's ability to play select content---such as anything worth really playing these days.
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Gamaliel
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¶ Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 - 21:22:01

Originally posted by lagozzino

Originally posted by Galaxy Girl

I'm curious as to where you're getting this information from. As far as I'm aware, radio stations have to pay money for the rights to play music, they don't get paid to play music.

This.

I used to work for my college radio station and we had to log every single song we played on air so that we could then pay the royalties for playing them. The only time we didn't pay was when a record company would send us a free promo album/single that they were really hoping to get airplay for.

I said except for public radio... college radio is a public radio station

An engineer in the music business was the first to tell me how songs 'really' get onto radio.

Here are some interesting articles:

http://forum.reverbnation.com/forums/1/topics/4106

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1511393886.shtml

http://thesop.org/entertainment/2006/07/28/record-companies-paying-big-time-for-payola-scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola

Like I said, it's illegal but they found a loophole by going through a "promoter".

redtastesweet is right. Clear Channel and Ifinity Radio ownes it all. Even venues. When Manson plays in the venues he plays in he has to pay for it.
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Da'ath - Babe of the Abyss

¶ Thursday, February 4th, 2010 - 01:51:33

Originally posted by Babel

Originally posted by lagozzino

Originally posted by Galaxy Girl

I'm curious as to where you're getting this information from. As far as I'm aware, radio stations have to pay money for the rights to play music, they don't get paid to play music.

This.

I used to work for my college radio station and we had to log every single song we played on air so that we could then pay the royalties for playing them. The only time we didn't pay was when a record company would send us a free promo album/single that they were really hoping to get airplay for.

I said except for public radio... college radio is a public radio station

An engineer in the music business was the first to tell me how songs 'really' get onto radio.

Here are some interesting articles:

http://forum.reverbnation.com/forums/1/topics/4106

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1511393886.shtml

http://thesop.org/entertainment/2006/07/28/record-companies-paying-big-time-for-payola-scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola

Like I said, it's illegal but they found a loophole by going through a "promoter".

redtastesweet is right. Clear Channel and Ifinity Radio ownes it all. Even venues. When Manson plays in the venues he plays in he has to pay for it.

public radio, huh. so then....all of the other radio stations aren't public? why are we able to listen to them for free then? and even ones we have to pay for (sirious), sorry but no. you can't win this.

and duh of course manson has to pay for venues he plays in, goood fucking god. it's called RENTING the place for a few hours. just like how you even have to pay to have your birthday party somewhere
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Gamaliel
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¶ Thursday, February 4th, 2010 - 18:35:45

By public radio I mean radio stations that are supported by public funding. This is common knowledge.

Yes of course Manson has to pay to rent the venues but ON TOP OF THAT he has to pay companies like Clear Channel.

You obviously don't know much about this, which isn't a big deal, not many people do. But to speak so surely and ignorantly and to assume i'm an idiot and know nothing about what I'm talking about is immature and rude. You think I'm so stupid that I didn't know that bands had to rent venues? Everyone knows that.

I think you need to do some research before you go around talking to people like they are the idiots. I don't need to call you one because I think the posts speak for themselves.
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¶ Saturday, February 6th, 2010 - 04:43:15

Originally posted by Babel

By public radio I mean radio stations that are supported by public funding. This is common knowledge.

Yes of course Manson has to pay to rent the venues but ON TOP OF THAT he has to pay companies like Clear Channel.

You obviously don't know much about this, which isn't a big deal, not many people do. But to speak so surely and ignorantly and to assume i'm an idiot and know nothing about what I'm talking about is immature and rude. You think I'm so stupid that I didn't know that bands had to rent venues? Everyone knows that.

I think you need to do some research before you go around talking to people like they are the idiots. I don't need to call you one because I think the posts speak for themselves.

no, you need to do more research by thinking that record companies actually own ALL radio stations. they may own a few, sure. but not ALL. and by few, i mean hardly any
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Gamaliel
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¶ Saturday, February 6th, 2010 - 16:47:01

I never said record companies own ALL radio stations, or even a few.

Anyway, talking to you is like talking to a four year old so I'm done.
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Da'ath - Babe of the Abyss

¶ Monday, February 8th, 2010 - 15:47:26

Originally posted by Babel

I never said record companies own ALL radio stations, or even a few.

Anyway, talking to you is like talking to a four year old so I'm done.

continue to contradict yourself since you noticed you were losing
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Thamiel
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¶ Monday, February 8th, 2010 - 16:54:44

I fucking hate the radio. I never even turn on a fucking radio, not in a car, not on the internet, not on my fucking cd players....

Being hearing impaired as I am... I never know who the fuck is playing- not only that- it sounds like SHIT when I hear it. It's always some repetitive faggoty ass band that's playing. And most radio stations, play the same FUCKING song over and over all fucking DAY. It's like listening to TRL from MTV on your fuckin radio.

Fuck your t.v.'s , Fuck your radios!

YOUR BRAIN IS THE GOD MODULE.
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