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  1. NK
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 09:58:43
    I don't believe any of the like has been started yet but as most of the material which makes up The NACHTKABARETT has come from books they should be an intrinsic part oft he lives of the readers themselves.

    So I'll get the ball rolling. currently reading:

    England's Dreaming by Jon Savage. Anarchy, Sex Pistols, Punk Rock and Beyond

    A great and very comprehensive book of the Punk movement, it's influences and written in a way which makes it sounds as exciting as it must have been. Almost finished with it. I first picked this up in 1996 but have recently gotten the new & expanded edition.

    And last month that I read,

    Do What Thou Wilt by Lawrence Sutton. A biography of Aleister Crowley. Also a great book and also in that it offers a much different perspective on Crowley, mainly bringing to light that he isn't quite the omnipotent and romantic Great Beast which salient history has painted him to be. In reality he was a very tragic figure but one that can be argued either brought the hardships upon himself out of indulgence or irresponsibility, else one that selflessly devoted himself to his pursuit of magick who, either way, died in ruin with nothing. I would definitely recommend though. It actually might have been a little easier in writing some of the early articles on him for The NACHTKABARETT as many certain points and evocations of Crowley by Manson I brought to light were a little less obscure than in his tome sized 'Confessions' autobiography, but I chose the high road back in 2002 when I started it. 'Do What Thou Wilt' is much more unbiased and presents a less one sided perspective (as well as chronically Crowley to his last days) but both are great compliments and contain certain datas here and there which are exclusive to each.

     

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    Nehemoth
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 11:59:41
    hmm, i might have to check out that crowley bio. i been meaning to pick up one sometime.

    right now i'm reading "only revolutions" by mark z. danielewski and edgar allan poe's unabridged fiction and poetry. :P
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    Harab Serapel
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 15:17:12
    I'll definitely try and pick up that Crowley book Nick, thanks for the recommendation.

    Currently reading a couple of books:

    DADA: Art and Anti Art - Authored by Hans Richter. Can get a bit boring at times, and though I'm still not finished, it is actually proving to be very interesting in some parts.

    Mysterious Stranger - Authored by David Blaine. This is a very good book, Blaine is an ever expanding enigma, and a true inspiration to me. No matter what your expectations for this book, you will not be underwhelmed if you go for it. A definite recommendation.

    Le Corbusier: The Concept of Self - Authored by my brother Dr. Simon Richards who is a lecturer on Art History in a University in England. He wrote this book as his thesis, and has gained his doctorate as a result. The book itself, is very enthralling. It tells the story of Le Corbusier, better known as Charles Edouard Jeanneret who was an artist during the time of the Surrealists and the Dadaists. Though he belonged to no particular movement, he was actually a highly complex man, who led a double life. He suffered from Chronic Schizophrenia, the same thing I have, and would often create his works in a secluded basement where he sought not only to distance himself from mainstream society, but to also find God in a wholly neoteric spiritual way.

    Unfortunately this book has not been published, so you can't exactly read it. I think there are only like 50 copies made, and I'm damn glad to own one of them, because it is proving to be a very exciting read!

    Also I picked up the Bible last night, before I dozed off to my state of slumber. I was reading the Book of Revelations, and amazing how many times the number 7 makes an appearance; also alludes to the Red Debt Insignia which consists of 7 straight lines, and I think Manson has referenced the number 7 a few times in his ACSS album.
  4. NK
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 15:35:45
    Sounds cool, man. I was visitting family in Connecticut this weekend and saw a book on Le Corb in my Mom's basement. His work didn't really grab me last time I saw but that sounds intriguing, his personal life that is. And also on family, that's cool about your brother's profession. It's what my Mom initially went to university for before becoming a nurse and why I had a lot of artistic influence during my upbringing.

     

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    Gamaliel
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 18:11:44
    Last week I read Inside the Third Reich, the memoires of Albert Speer. It was very interesting. I love to read about WWII.

    I also read Kafka on the Shore, a book by Haruki Murakami. It has two faintly connected plotlines. The first deals with a young boy named Kafka who runs away from home to escape an oedipal curse and whom eventually has sex with his mother and sister. He finds a library run by his soon-to-be-known mother, Saeki, and an androgynous gay man, that is in sex a woman yet in gender a guy that likes guys. When Saeki was 20 she became popular for a song she named "Kafka on the Shore", yet the person whom she was in love with was beaten to death in a student rally and she has been dead inside ever since. Yet when Kafka comes he falls in love with her(his mother) and he sees a ghost of her teenage self of whom he loves also. Saeki eventually comes to his room and has sex with Kafka though feeling like it is her old boyfriend, then she dies. The other plot deals with a guy named Nakata who was a wunderkind, yet had his brain wasted by gas as a little boy and lost his intellegence. now, as an old man, he recieves the benefit and finds lost cats for famlies, since he can speak to cats. When searching for a cat, he finds it at a cat serial killers house whom wants to make a gigantic flute out of their souls that will eventually rival the power of the universe. Nakata kills this guy and escapes out of town and ends up on the same path as kafka. A really interesting part in this book deals with a pimp who is actually not real yet looks like Colenel Sanders, the KFC guy, and whom takes this guy to a Hegel-quoting prostitute. A very good author, though I didn't like this book as much as his others. If you havn't read him, I recommend Norweigan Wood. His books deal with loneliness, heartbreak, growth, suicide, et cetera and have a strong resonance.

    I also read The Goblin Market, since it has the line "eat me, drink me, love me" in it and is a victorian long poem. I also started to read the Benefactor by Susan Sontag, but it is so goddamn boring. The only book of hers I've read is Death Kit. I recommend this one, as it is a dream a man has just had before or after he has killed himself.

    I also read Black Rain by Ibuse, a japanese novel about the bombing of Hiroshima. It is filled with images of rotting corpses, maggots and dead children and "the horror"..

    Have any of you read Pahalniuk's novels? I've read most of them and I like them since they have such an understanding of todays condition.

    I am reading at the moment "I am a Cat" by Soseki, a book that is seen through the eyes of a cat about and written in the early 20th centruy. However it's boring and is taking me awhile.

    I read movie reviews by Pauline Kael each day, often the same ones. She was such a great critic.

    The past two days I have also read 8 anime books. 5 neon genesis eveangelion books, X 1999 and MegaMan Nt Warrior. I am just getting into anime after seeing neon genesis.

    Oh, I started last week to read A History of Magic by Eliphas Levi. It is hard to read since it's so based in it's time. I havn't gone back to it since....haha.

    I have read Diary of a Drug Fiend by Crowley, Liber Legis and looked over his Book of Thoth, oh and the book of lies, which has awesome poetry!
    Not God but a swastika
    So black no sky could squeak through.
    Every woman adores a Fascist,
    The boot in the face, the brute
    Brute heart of a brute like you.
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    Gamaliel
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    Monday, January 29th, 2007 - 19:05:25
    DADA: Art and Anti Art - Authored by Hans Richter.


    Haha!.. That's what I want to read too :-D

    Currently reading... Lots of things concerning Russian avant-garde, Vladimir Sorokin and more. But only one book in English (re-reading it actually):

    Zaum : The transrational poetry of Russian futurism by Jerald Janecek.

    And I higly recommend it to everyone who is interested in avant-garde, futurism, dada and radical experimentation in art. An exhaustive treatise on one of the most peculiar features of Russian futurism.

    Take pride in your vulgarity!

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    Gamaliel
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    Tuesday, January 30th, 2007 - 00:18:51
    Zaum : The transrational poetry of Russian futurism by Jerald Janecek.


    Have you ever read "Victory over the Sun" It was written by that guy that wrote the book whose cover is on Manson's People's Forum whom was part of that zaum thing. I can't find it anywhere, not in russian or english. I've just seen the costumes. Though I love the plot!
    Not God but a swastika
    So black no sky could squeak through.
    Every woman adores a Fascist,
    The boot in the face, the brute
    Brute heart of a brute like you.
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    Harab Serapel
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    Tuesday, January 30th, 2007 - 14:08:19
    Originally posted by NK
    Sounds cool, man. I was visitting family in Connecticut this weekend and saw a book on Le Corb in my Mom's basement. His work didn't really grab me last time I saw but that sounds intriguing, his personal life that is. And also on family, that's cool about your brother's profession. It's what my Mom initially went to university for before becoming a nurse and why I had a lot of artistic influence during my upbringing.


    Thanks and yea I read on TTAS about your mother being very into her Art History, so I guess my brother and her would get along great. It's a shame we're so far a part, geographically speaking.

    My brother primarily works in Urbanism, and I think he has a few more books in the works, however he also lectures heavily on Surrealism and Dada, so I think his knowledge of the art world is pretty damn well rounded.

    We have plans to go check out some galleries up in Manchester and London in the near future, and he's also helping me out with finding a gallery for my soon to be held art show.

    [quote="obyvatelius"]
    DADA: Art and Anti Art - Authored by Hans Richter.


    Haha!.. That's what I want to read too :-D

    quote]

    Get it man, it's one hell of a book. :D

    Originally posted by jarrado777

    Have any of you read Pahalniuk's novels? I've read most of them and I like them since they have such an understanding of todays condition.



    Yes I've read about 4 or 5.

    One of my favourite authors.
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    Tuesday, January 30th, 2007 - 14:45:45
    Well, I've been reading school stuff for the past few weeks. Exams are the worst.

    I'm planning on doing some reading soon. I should read some of those books everyone should read, like some of Wilde's works, or maybe another Huxley. I'll see what the english section of my local library has.
    I'm also gonna read up on C++. That's a programming language, and a mighty good one too. I regret not having started using it sooner, so I'm gonna make up for that now.

    let me be your human toy

  10. NK
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    Tuesday, January 30th, 2007 - 14:51:29
    Originally posted by Paradoxical_Illusion

    Thanks and yea I read on TTAS about your mother being very into her Art History, so I guess my brother and her would get along great. It's a shame we're so far a part, geographically speaking.

    My brother primarily works in Urbanism, and I think he has a few more books in the works, however he also lectures heavily on Surrealism and Dada, so I think his knowledge of the art world is pretty damn well rounded.

    We have plans to go check out some galleries up in Manchester and London in the near future, and he's also helping me out with finding a gallery for my soon to be held art show.




    That's cool. Always wanted to go to London, see Vivienne Westwood's shop and such. So... will have to arrange a tea meeting when the time comes ;)

    Chuck Palahniuk (sp) I read his first three books back in 2000/2001. I liked them at the time and thought his style of writing was pretty similar to Manson (that type of stream of thought & eloquence). Aside from setting and character roles I just thought all three of those were basically the same story. Most heavily so with Fight Club & Survivor.

     

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    Gamaliel
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    Tuesday, January 30th, 2007 - 18:28:04
    Currently reading Yukio Mishima's two novels "Running Horses" and "Forbidden Colours" after seeing the movie by Shrader, the guy whom wrote the script for Taxi Driver, yesterday. He's the famous guy that commited suppuku before some of the army in protest for his nationalist beliefs and belief in the bushido, the samurai code of ethics and actions. It's cool cuz u gotta understand the man to understand the books and vice versa. In a way, he reminds me of MM: both have harmony between the pen and the sword; both make themselves and their art beautifull and both understand the beauty of death and how man moves towards it to fully beautify himself.
    Not God but a swastika
    So black no sky could squeak through.
    Every woman adores a Fascist,
    The boot in the face, the brute
    Brute heart of a brute like you.
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    Gamaliel
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    Wednesday, January 31st, 2007 - 15:18:15
    currently reading:



    "The Humorous Verse of Lewis Carroll", this is all poetry of Lewis Carroll, very good.


    "The Great Wall of China" by Franz Kafka, this is a book of short stories, very good too.


    "The Tattvas or the Vibrations of the Aether" by Arnold Krumm-Heller, esoteric reading, very interesting.



    thanks Nick for the Crowley`s bio information.

    I appreciate your faith in our cause...

  13. Antickon
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    Wednesday, January 31st, 2007 - 16:26:56
    I bought a copy of Wilde's the Picture of Dorian Gray this afternoon, and I (obviously) intend to read it. I've only read the introduction and the five first pages on the train but it looks real good so far.

    let me be your human toy

  14. Autrach Sejanoz
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    Thursday, February 1st, 2007 - 23:26:27
    I'm reading Chuck Palahniuk's Non-Fiction, Ben Elton's Chart Throb, and Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion.
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    Harab Serapel
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    Friday, February 2nd, 2007 - 11:20:49
    Originally posted by NK
    Originally posted by Paradoxical_Illusion

    Thanks and yea I read on TTAS about your mother being very into her Art History, so I guess my brother and her would get along great. It's a shame we're so far a part, geographically speaking.

    My brother primarily works in Urbanism, and I think he has a few more books in the works, however he also lectures heavily on Surrealism and Dada, so I think his knowledge of the art world is pretty damn well rounded.

    We have plans to go check out some galleries up in Manchester and London in the near future, and he's also helping me out with finding a gallery for my soon to be held art show.




    That's cool. Always wanted to go to London, see Vivienne Westwood's shop and such. So... will have to arrange a tea meeting when the time comes ;)

    Chuck Palahniuk (sp) I read his first three books back in 2000/2001. I liked them at the time and thought his style of writing was pretty similar to Manson (that type of stream of thought & eloquence). Aside from setting and character roles I just thought all three of those were basically the same story. Most heavily so with Fight Club & Survivor.


    Absolutely, I wouldn't miss that for the world!

    I'm sure I could spare a few days if you ever decide to swing by here, and London isn't a far reach.
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